Robert Whitaker Interview

From: http://www.counterpunch.org/levine04282010.html

A Conversation with Robert Whitaker

The Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America

By BRUCE E. LEVINE

In 1987, prior to Prozac hitting the market and the current ubiquitous use of antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs, the U.S. mental illness disability rate was 1 in every 184 Americans, but by 2007 the mental illness disability rate had more than doubled to 1 in every 76 Americans. Robert Whitaker was curious as to what was causing this dramatic increase in mental illness disability. The answers are in his new book, Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America (Crown Publishers, April 2010).

Whitaker’s findings will create a problem for both Big Pharma and establishment psychiatry, but his credentials and his craftsmanship will make it difficult to marginalize him.

Whitaker is the author of four books including Mad in America, about the mistreatment of the mentally ill; and as a reporter for the Boston Globe, he won a George Polk Award for medical writing, a National Association of Science Writers Award for best magazine article, and was a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize. In the tradition of Michael Pollan, Eric Schlosser, and other investigative reporters who get taken seriously, Whitaker is scrupulous, fair, and describes complex phenomena in a way that is easy to understand.

Levine: So mental illness disability rates have doubled since 1987 and increased six-fold since 1955. And at the same time, psychiatric drug use greatly increased in the 1950s and 1960s, then skyrocketed after 1988 when Prozac hit the market, so now antidepressant and antipsychotic drugs alone gross more than $25 billion annually in the U.S. But as you know, correlation isn’t causation. What makes you feel that the increase in psychiatric drug use is a big part of the reason for the increase in mental illness?

Whitaker: The rise in the disability rate due to mental illness is simply the starting point for the book. The disability numbers don’t prove anything, but, given that this astonishing increase has occurred in lockstep with our society’s increased use of psychiatric medications, the numbers do raise an obvious question. Could our drug-based paradigm of care, for some unforeseen reason, be fueling the increase in disability rates? And in order to investigate that question, you need to look at two things. First, do

psychiatric medications alter the long-term course of mental disorders for the better, or for the worse? Do they increase the likelihood that a person will be able to function well over the long-term, or do they increase the likelihood that a person will end up on disability? Second, is it possible that a person with a mild disorder may have a bad reaction to an initial drug, and that puts the person onto a path that can lead to long-term disability. For instance, a person with a mild bout of depression may have a manic reaction to an antidepressant, and then is diagnosed with bipolar disorder and put on a cocktail of medications. Does that happen with any frequency? Could that be an iatrogenic [physician-caused illness] pathway that is helping to fuel the increase in the disability rates?

So that’s the starting point for the book. What I then did was look at what the scientific literature — a literature that now extends over 50 years — has to say about those questions. And the literature is remarkably consistent in the story it tells. Although psychiatric medications may be effective over the short term, they increase the likelihood that a person will become chronically ill over the long term. I was startled to see this picture emerge over and over again as I traced the long-term outcomes literature for schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, and bipolar illness. In addition, the scientific literature shows that many patients treated for a milder problem will worsen in response to a drug– say have a manic episode after taking an antidepressant — and that can lead to a new and more severe diagnosis like bipolar disorder. That is a well-documented iatrogenic pathway that is helping to fuel the increase in the disability numbers.

Now there may be various cultural factors contributing to the increase in the number of disabled mentally ill in our society. But the outcomes literature — and this really is a tragic story — clearly shows that our drug-based paradigm of care is a primary cause.

Levine: I have a clinical practice and I have seen several examples of what you are talking about, and I had previously read several of the scientific studies that you detail in Anatomy of an Epidemic, so I am not exactly a naïve reader. However, in reading your book and seeing the enormity of the problem and just how much overwhelming evidence there is for a horrible crisis, I started getting a little sick to my stomach. I wonder, as you got into the research, did you start drawing comparisons to Rachel Carson and Silent Spring? Specifically, this is such a huge unnecessary tragedy, affecting several million people including children, yet there is virtually no discussion of it in the mass media.

Whitaker: A journalist friend of mine, who was a long-time reporter at the Washington Post and Newsday, said that he too was reminded of Silent Spring when he read Anatomy of an Epidemic. And, in fact, I was stunned by much of what I found when I was researching the book, and I did at times become overwhelmed by the magnitude of the tragedy. Let me give a specific example. When you research the rise of juvenile bipolar illness in this country, you see that it appears in lockstep with the prescribing of stimulants for ADHD and antidepressants for depression. Prior to the use of those medications, you find that researchers reported that manic-depressive illness, which is what bipolar illness was called at the time, virtually never occurred in prepubertal children. But once psychiatrists started putting “hyperactive” children on Ritalin, they started to see prepubertal children with manic symptoms. Same thing happened when psychiatrists started prescribing antidepressants to children and teenagers. A significant percentage had manic or hypomanic reactions to the antidepressants. Thus, we see these two iatrogenic pathways to a juvenile bipolar diagnosis documented in the medical literature. And then what happens to the children and teenagers who end up with this diagnosis? They are now put on heavier-duty drugs and often on a drug cocktail, and you find that they do poorly on that treatment. You find that a high percentage end up “rapid cyclers,” which means they have severe “bipolar” symptoms, and that they can now be expected to be chronically ill throughout their lives. We also know that the atypical antipsychotics [such as Risperdal and Zyprexa] prescribed to bipolar children cause a host of physical problems, and there is pretty good evidence that they cause cognitive decline over the long term. When you add up all this information, you end up documenting a story of how the lives of hundreds of thousands of children in the United States have been destroyed in this way. In fact, I think that the number of children and teenagers that have ended up “bipolar” after being treated with a stimulant or an antidepressant is now well over one million. This is a story of harm done on an unimaginable scale.

So why hasn’t the media reported on this? The answer is that the media, when it covers medicine, basically repeats the narrative fashioned by the academic doctors who are leaders in the particular discipline, and in this case, academic psychiatrists have told a story of new illnesses — like juvenile bipolar illness — being “discovered,” and of drugs for those treatments that are safe, effective and necessary. They tell this story to the public even as their own studies find that their juvenile bipolar patients — who when they first came to a psychiatrist might simply have been “hyperactive” or struggling with a momentary bout of depression — are ending up with severe bipolar symptoms and can now expect to be chronically ill for life. The problem is that our society trusts academic doctors to tell an honest story, and in this corner of medicine, it’s quite easy to document — and I did document this in Anatomy of an Epidemic — that academic psychiatry has belied that trust.

Levine: Let’s get to the issue of psychiatric medications fixing “chemical imbalances.” This idea was absolutely crucial in making Prozac and other antidepressants attractive to depressed patients. However, these days even much of the psychiatry establishment has backed off the idea that depressed people have too little serotonin between their synapses and that antidepressants fix this chemical imbalance. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t help but see the comparison between Big Pharma and the Bush Administration, which told Americans that the U.S. needed to invade Iraq because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and he was connected to Al Qaeda. Of course, the Saddam Hussein-Al Qaeda connection was simply a lie, and the WMD rationale proved to be false. Do you believe that Big Pharma and establishment psychiatry were lying about this chemical imbalance theory at the time Prozac hit the market in 1988, or do you believe that they had hoped this theory was true because it sold drugs — and it just turned out to be wrong?

Whitaker: The low-serotonin theory of depression was first investigated in the 1970s and early 1980s, and those studies did not find that people diagnosed with depression had “low serotonin.” As the NIMH [National Institute of Mental Health] noted in 1984 at the conclusion of such investigations: “Elevations or decrements in the functioning of serotonergic systems per se are not likely to be associated with depression.” So why was the public told differently?

The answer is a bit complicated. In the late 1970s, the market for psychiatric drugs declined and psychiatry suddenly saw itself as a profession under “siege,” having now to compete with a burgeoning number of psychologists and other non-physician therapists for patients. In response, the profession — at its highest levels — decided to sell the public on a biomedical model of mental disorders, as that model would naturally emphasize the importance of taking “medications” for a disease and it was only psychiatrists who could prescribe those drugs. This story-telling began with the publication of DSM-III in 1980, which the American Psychiatric Association (APA) heralded as a grand “scientific achievement,” and then soon the APA was announcing that great discoveries were being made about the biology of mental disorders. And once psychiatry began to tell a story that wasn’t science based, but rather was best described as a marketing campaign, I think it began to believe its own marketing slogans. I don’t know this for a fact, but I am willing to bet that Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and others began to believe their own public pronouncements about weapons of mass destruction and a Saddam Hussein-Al Qaeda connection, and I think something similar to that happened in American psychiatry when Prozac came to market. The field stopped looking at the science that showed that the low-serotonin theory of depression had basically already flamed out, and instead began to believe its own propaganda.

Moreover, the chemical-imbalance story did more than just spur sales of drugs. It provided psychiatrists with a desirable public image. They were now like doctors in infectious medicine and other respected specialties, their medications “like insulin for diabetes.” The chemical-imbalance story told of medical progress, of a discipline that was unlocking the mysteries of the brain. Indeed, when Prozac came to market, there were newspaper stories about how psychiatry now had a new reason to “feel proud,” and how its public image had improved. So in the late 1980s and early 1990s, the chemical imbalance story is not one that tells of how lying moved into the heart of the field, but rather how professional delusion did.

At some later point, however, as the chemical imbalance story repeatedly fell apart, psychiatrists in the research community understood that they were telling a “fib.” I can still remember — this was the summer of 1998 — when I questioned a prominent academic psychiatrist about whether the chemical imbalance story was really “true” and he replied by stating that it was a “useful metaphor” that “helped patients understand why they needed to take their medication.” This really is the tragedy of modern psychiatry — it became a medical discipline devoted to telling a public story that made its drugs look good, as opposed to telling a story rooted in honest science.

Levine: Big Pharma and their partners in establishment psychiatry would like the general public to believe that the only critics of psychiatry are Scientologists. In reality, most scientists who are critics of psychiatry are also critics of the pseudoscience of Scientology. It is my experience that serious critics of psychiatry are not anti-drug zealots. For example, I know that you have talked with “psychiatric survivors” — ex-patients who want to reform mental health treatment. David Oaks, one of the leading activists in the psychiatric survivor movement, often repeats that some members of his MindFreedom organization continue to take their psychiatric drugs while many choose not to, and what MindFreedom and other psychiatric survivors are fighting for is truly informed choice and a wider range of treatment options. Do you think that David Oaks’s fight is the right one?

Whitaker: Big Pharma and their partners in establishment psychiatry have smartly used Scientology to defuse criticism of their medications. I honestly believe that if Scientology weren’t around, then our society could have a much more rational discussion about our drug-based paradigm of care. As for the position taken by MindFreedom and other psychiatric survivors, I basically do think that is the right one to take, with two caveats. In order to make a “truly informed choice,” a person needs to know the long-term effects of a treatment. It’s not enough for people to be fully informed about the immediate “side effects” of a drug. People need to be presented with information about whether such treatment has been shown to better the long-term course of the disorder, or worsen it. They need to be told about long-term physical and cognitive problems that often arise with every day use of psychiatric drugs. So providing people with a “truly informed choice” is a tall order.

My second caveat is this: As a society, we expect the medical community to develop the best possible form of care. We do not expect a medical community to offer a therapy that regularly leads to a bad end. And so, if we were to draw up a blueprint for reforming the current paradigm of care, it would be nice if the psychiatric community would try to develop therapeutic approaches that involved using psychiatric medications in a selective, cautious way that best promoted good long-term outcomes. In other words, I think psychiatry does have a responsibility to develop a true evidence-based model for using its drugs, a model that incorporates the long-term outcomes data. In the solution section of Anatomy of an Epidemic, I write of how doctors and psychologists in northern Finland use antipsychotics in a selective, cautious manner when treating first-episode psychotic patients, and their long-term outcomes are, by far, the best in the Western World. So if you believe in evidence-based medicine, then American psychiatry should look to the Finnish program as a model for reform. Doctors have a responsibility to lead, but I think that you see in David Oaks’ position a belief that establishment psychiatry in America cannot be trusted to provide such leadership. He’s right to believe that, of course, and that’s what is so tragic about modern American psychiatry.

Bruce E. Levine is a clinical psychologist and his latest book is Surviving America’s Depression Epidemic: How to Find Morale, Energy, and Community in a World Gone Crazy (Chelsea Green Publishing, 2007). His Web site is www.brucelevine.net

5 responses to this post.

  1. I just posted an audio interview I did with Robert that might be of interest to your audience.

    http://joanneunleashed.com/722/do-psychiatric-drugs-make-mental-illnesses-worse/

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  2. Posted by janet woodward on June 26, 2010 at 8:57 am

    I am curious as to whether investigative reporter Robert Whitaker has been invited to Seattle, Wash. by anyone. I would like to hear him speak if he is ever out here. I did not find a website to contact him directly. We have a bookstore, Elliot Bay Books, that has authors speaking everyday. Thanks for info.

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  3. Posted by janet woodward on June 26, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Joanne, thank you very much!

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  4. Is long term use of psychiatric medication right for you?

    David Wayne McCannon
    September 4, 2010

    In medicine they are always looking for the magic bullet to eradicate illness. Medicine when applied the right way saves and improve lives. It is a proven scientific fact. What I am going to write today may sound anti-medicine but it is not.

    We are taught to trust our doctors blindly today. Doctors have been elevated to god like status in our society. We treat what they say as the gospel truth, and we are looked down upon if we ever question their judgment. I am not saying not to value their opinions, after all they have been in school for many years and they deserve to be respected and they deserved to be paid for their services.

    The problem with medicine is not the doctors who prescribe the drugs, but it is the powerful pharmaceutical companies who are no longer just motivated to save lives, but to make a profit. Their greed has made them dangerous because all they want to do is sell their product. I believe this to be true in the field of Psychiatry.

    The field Psychiatry is the only medical field that does not have a standardized test to diagnose their illnesses. They go strictly by what people tell them. They make their diagnostic decisions by making an educated guess. They do not even know that the medicines they provide are going to work. It is all trial and era. A lot of people take the medicine without knowing what they are for. What the medicine is supposed to do? Many of us do not know the side effects, and what are the consequences of using the drugs in the long run.

    I am not saying that mental illnesses are not real. Life is full of emotional and physical traumas. The hurt and pain are very real. I do believe that psychiatric medicine in short term use can be beneficial in stabilizing a person when they are in crises.

    Many of us who have been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder or Schizophrenia have been told that we will have to be on medications for the rest of our lives. This may not be 100% true. There are case studies where people decide to forgo the use of psychiatric drugs and they made remarkable recoveries without drugs. They go back to school and get careers in the field of their choice. While other consumers who choose to stay on drug therapy usually remain disabled and are drawing disability checks. In both cases the consumer felt that they made the right choice.

    If you are now on long term drug treatment for a mental disorder I would like to recommend a book called Anatomy of an Epidemic written by Robert Whitaker a science and history writer. This is a non-bias account that is not promoted by the big power hunger pharmaceutical companies. I recommend this book to the consumer and Psychiatrist alike.

    I myself have come to the conclusion that long term use of psychiatric drugs cause disability and brain damage. I am not telling you to stop using your medicine. That would be unethical of me. I also believe by not giving you the whole picture, Psychiatry is being unethical by not showing both sides of the issue. Educate yourself for you are your own expert. Medication is your choice alone and do not let anyone tell you different. Your illness is just a label, and you are not your illness.

    I want to help others like me. I do not want to enable them, but empower them. Remember the article I sent you called Music and the Brain written by Laurence O’Donnell. If Albert’s Einstein parents followed the advice of the experts of that time, he would have not become the genius he was. If you doctor want to put you child on a powerful mood altering drug because they are having a hard time learning or behaving, get the a musical instrument instead. In my case it was a computer.

    Education, music and exercise are powerful tools for the mind. When one is encouraged to seek out ones skills and abilities they are empowered. No one is better than anyone else. Whatever you are good at strive to be the best at it.

    I guess you can tell by my writing, I am choosing to forgo the drugs. I have notice periods in my life where I was doing my best; I either was off medicine, or on a lower dose. I would be hospitalized for being seriously suicidal and sick. A doctor at Peachford Hospital in Atlanta noticed I was taking too much medicine. When he reduced my medicine, I would get better. I was chronic on suicidal ideation. I would sleep about 12 to 16 hours a day. I would not take care of myself at all. I would not shower, brush my teeth, or even wash cloths. I was on the verge of being force into a personal care home.

    Thank God for the people at Peachford Hospital. I learned there I could not depend on the medicine to get better. I do not recommend Peachford for the medical treatment, but they run some of the most empowering groups I ever saw. The information I learned there saved my life.

    There was a MHA there who was a brain scientist. I did not like the guy very much, but I learned a lot about the science of depression from him. He believed that depression was caused by behavioral issues, and if you change your behavior you would no longer need drugs. I change my behavior with God’s help by letting go of my anger and resentment of my life. I started by replacing my hate with love, and I turned my pessimism into optimism. I found joy and happiness that I did not know exist. Changing my behavior changed my life for the better. Do not take my word for it. Do your own research and see for yourself.

    I am David Wayne McCannon and I am a mental health consumer, webmaster and Blogger, and I provide this info free of charge.

    Copyright © 2010 AthensMentalHealth.org

    Robert Whitaker – Rethinking Psychiatric Care

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